From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sat Feb 3 10:29:36 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:51:59 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: Message-ID: Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have had it since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets stuck at loading block 1. Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I can do? It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so many years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was special once upon a time. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070203/19c66f33/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 05:07:06 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:51:59 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702040507p7b75e9e2k25e759ad900c51c2@mail.gmail.com> Hi Steven It's sad to hear about this problem of yours! You sound like you have completely given up on your Andromeda? This precious thing can be repaired, you know. Send it to a repair or even to the factory in germany. I bought mine at about 3 months ago but it had a tuning problem so I send it back free of charge. I received it on January the 4th and Alesis's engineers had repaired it fine :-) Go for it (you know it's worth it!). Email Justin Baro of Alesis and ask him what it takes to get your Andy up and running again. He always responded the very next day when i had a question. jbaro@numark.com Good luck! We feel your pain too! Soarer On 2/3/07, Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have had it > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried all the > reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets stuck at loading > block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so many > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was special > once upon a time. > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/8d1492ff/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 07:13:56 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:51:59 2010 Subject: [A6] A6 dead? Message-ID: Hi, Is there any way to find, and load the A6 bootloader, separately from the OS? I can get my A6 to boot up but it doesn't seem to be receiving MIDI or Sysex when I try to re-load the OS (it shows the proper numbers and info for bootloader and OS when I power-up with soft-button 7), and booting up holding soft button 2 puts it into diagnostic mode, which gives all the buttons and controls and slow-RAM a complete Passed score. So I'm hoping I just have a corrupted OS and bootloader, and am looking for a way to reset all that (powering up holding soft button 4 doesn't do it, though it goes through the motions seemingly fine). I'm hoping I can get some good info here, thanks. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/a5ffbf9f/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 07:18:03 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:00 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <21c7b5a00702040507p7b75e9e2k25e759ad900c51c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I heard back from Justin, on a Saturday, I appreciate that. I'm in despair, it's like having a Stradivarius destroyed, to me. He's suggested I ship it off to T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ (as it's years out of warranty); I've contacted them. I've had a horrible time lately with nobody being able to get things fixed right, shipping people losing things and I'm out of hope that I'll actually be able to get the synth shipped and back in one piece, with the problem fixed and everything else okay. I suspect if it's not a corrupted OS, that the memory or flash RAM on the main PCB has been damaged in some way, as the system won't take an OS reload via MIDI no matter which way I try it (it always stops on Received 1 block, and doesn't get any further). Ack. I've never had something like this make me so miserable! It's been my favorite synth for many years. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Soarer A6 To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Hi Steven It's sad to hear about this problem of yours! You sound like you have completely given up on your Andromeda? This precious thing can be repaired, you know. Send it to a repair or even to the factory in germany. I bought mine at about 3 months ago but it had a tuning problem so I send it back free of charge. I received it on January the 4th and Alesis's engineers had repaired it fine :-) Go for it (you know it's worth it!). Email Justin Baro of Alesis and ask him what it takes to get your Andy up and running again. He always responded the very next day when i had a question. jbaro@numark.com Good luck! We feel your pain too! Soarer On 2/3/07, Steven Wartofsky > wrote: Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have had it since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets stuck at loading block 1. Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I can do? It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so many years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was special once upon a time. Steve _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/b95678bc/attachment.htm From siro_mateos at hotmail.com Sun Feb 4 07:38:18 2007 From: siro_mateos at hotmail.com (Siro Mateos) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:00 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> Steven Wartofsky wrote: > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have had it > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > stuck at loading block 1. > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I can do? > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so many > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > special once upon a time. > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out what can be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user presets or more severe corruptions? I hope this helps... From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 09:01:39 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:01 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it really messed up? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Siro Mateos To: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Steven Wartofsky wrote: > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have had it > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > stuck at loading block 1. > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I can do? > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so many > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > special once upon a time. > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out what can be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user presets or more severe corruptions? 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URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/1f7bc249/attachment.htm From stevielaw at gmail.com Sun Feb 4 09:33:35 2007 From: stevielaw at gmail.com (stevie) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:01 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust In-Reply-To: References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > *To:* A6@code404.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 09:52:20 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:02 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> <45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep, tried that; they checksummed identically. At this point I suspect it's either hardware, or there needs to be some special way to reset everything to "seriously empty" before flashing anything back to RAM. I would assume the bootloader's ok, since all its functionality seems to be fine. I can reset with soft-button 2 to enter diagnostics mode, and confirm that all the knobs, buttons, ribbon, everything, is working fine at that level; I can reset with soft-button 3 to do a "hard reset" and wipe the user banks to factory default; I can reset with soft-button 4 to "soft reset"; I can reset with button 1 to try to load "Default Pgm"; I can reset with soft-button 7 to try to load the OS. All of that goes through the procedure. But the end result each time is that if I try to boot up the synth, from power off and wait ten (or 15, for that matter) seconds, after each of the above, the screen comes up with the Andromeda logo, does its flip to black and then back to normal, and then flashes something and basically "hangs" on the startup screen (all lights never come on, screen doesn't get to anything I can use). I had this problem with the first Andromeda I tried to buy before I got this one, a day after I got it back from the store. I switched it for a new unit and this one's been fine ever since back then. But now, it appears to have the same problem. I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. I had the strange experience of being able to upload all 2736 blocks to the synth this morning, over an hour, using a buffer size of 1024 and timeout/delay of 1000 milliseconds between each F0/F7 sysex package, and for once it counted all the way up without any hang. But then when I hit a button to flash it to ram, it went immediately to "Verify Block 5" and the do not interrupt screen, and I waited another half an hour, and it seemed hung there. Now when I power it up, I'm back to scratch. If I hold soft-reset 7 while powering up, it goes to the screen ready to receive Sysex, but using the same MIDIOX config as mentioned above, it's now doing what it was doing yesterday, getting stuck at receiving Block 1 and not going any further. I wish I knew what was wrong; this is the kind of fragility in its design that's always worried me about the A6, and has me thinking maybe I've had all my fun with this synth at this point. I'll see what it'll cost to get it repaired, but between the shipping costs, the likely damage or disappearance during shipping, the risk that something else will be messed up during repair...... it may be that I'd be happier just spending 500 bucks on an SH-201 or something and using it to control softsynths on my PC, and leaving the A6 behind. There's just a subtlety to sound designing on it that I'll miss, sigh. Even if the results are not really spectacular, just well-known to me. Dimension Pro and Rapture give me just as much flexibility in envelope control, though, and more, really, along with Reaktor, in terms of sound variety than I can ever get from a subtractive synth. ARGH. Thanks for your patience. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: stevie To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com ; Siro Mateos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > > *To:* A6@code404.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/ab46f956/attachment.htm From schaltstern at curious-electric.com Sun Feb 4 11:19:57 2007 From: schaltstern at curious-electric.com (schaltstern) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:02 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust In-Reply-To: References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> <45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not that I know much, but if we were talking about a PC, I'd be sure it's the RAM. If this is the case, then an obvious workaround would be to exchange it. Which brings up the questions - where is it located - can it be changed by a non-technician - and what RAM can be used. Which leads to the next question (again) - is there a service manual? > I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) > the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. > From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 13:25:00 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:02 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com> <45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 257 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/87b0abbe/attachment.gif From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Sun Feb 4 13:25:26 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:03 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com><45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you changed anything in the studio? This might sound odd, but for a couple of years my Matrix-6 would act up. I noticed it seemed to act up more when I moved it. I was sure it was internal hardware. One day I was redoing my studio and I went back to using the original power cord it came with as I no longer needed a longer chord for it. The problem went away. The Matrix-6 uses a standard three prong power chord similar to that of a PC and many other synths. I have no idea why it made a difference, but it did. I'm guessing it was a better fit when plugged in. I once had another synth that only seemed to like being plugged directly in the wall. Put it on a power strip and it wasn't happy. I know it's a long shot, but you never know. Try plugging it somewhere else. Unplug everthing from the synth but the power chord when starting it. If you changed absolutely anything in the studio, look there. I hope it's not internal hardware. BTW, does the A6 have any fuses? cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yep, tried that; they checksummed identically. At this point I suspect it's either hardware, or there needs to be some special way to reset everything to "seriously empty" before flashing anything back to RAM. I would assume the bootloader's ok, since all its functionality seems to be fine. I can reset with soft-button 2 to enter diagnostics mode, and confirm that all the knobs, buttons, ribbon, everything, is working fine at that level; I can reset with soft-button 3 to do a "hard reset" and wipe the user banks to factory default; I can reset with soft-button 4 to "soft reset"; I can reset with button 1 to try to load "Default Pgm"; I can reset with soft-button 7 to try to load the OS. All of that goes through the procedure. But the end result each time is that if I try to boot up the synth, from power off and wait ten (or 15, for that matter) seconds, after each of the above, the screen comes up with the Andromeda logo, does its flip to black and then back to normal, and then flashes something and basically "hangs" on the startup screen (all lights never come on, screen doesn't get to anything I can use). I had this problem with the first Andromeda I tried to buy before I got this one, a day after I got it back from the store. I switched it for a new unit and this one's been fine ever since back then. But now, it appears to have the same problem. I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. I had the strange experience of being able to upload all 2736 blocks to the synth this morning, over an hour, using a buffer size of 1024 and timeout/delay of 1000 milliseconds between each F0/F7 sysex package, and for once it counted all the way up without any hang. But then when I hit a button to flash it to ram, it went immediately to "Verify Block 5" and the do not interrupt screen, and I waited another half an hour, and it seemed hung there. Now when I power it up, I'm back to scratch. If I hold soft-reset 7 while powering up, it goes to the screen ready to receive Sysex, but using the same MIDIOX config as mentioned above, it's now doing what it was doing yesterday, getting stuck at receiving Block 1 and not going any further. I wish I knew what was wrong; this is the kind of fragility in its design that's always worried me about the A6, and has me thinking maybe I've had all my fun with this synth at this point. I'll see what it'll cost to get it repaired, but between the shipping costs, the likely damage or disappearance during shipping, the risk that something else will be messed up during repair...... it may be that I'd be happier just spending 500 bucks on an SH-201 or something and using it to control softsynths on my PC, and leaving the A6 behind. There's just a subtlety to sound designing on it that I'll miss, sigh. Even if the results are not really spectacular, just well-known to me. Dimension Pro and Rapture give me just as much flexibility in envelope control, though, and more, really, along with Reaktor, in terms of sound variety than I can ever get from a subtractive synth. ARGH. Thanks for your patience. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: stevie To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com ; Siro Mateos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > *To:* A6@code404.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/20de2c0d/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Sun Feb 4 13:41:31 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:03 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com><45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, have tried all of these now -- still the same problem, unfortunately. The more I think about it, the more I realize there simply is no replacement for the A6, except another A6. I'm going to sweat through figuring out how to get it repaired, I guess. I really thought at first maybe it was a cold day and the synth wasn't ready to get up, but it's warmer today and same problem. There is a fuse in the power supply, but that's fine, and no bulging caps or anything (I've had that joy with PC power supplies in the past, yay). I recall giving the thing a bit of an electric shock (on the outside, bottom) when I walked over to it and turned it on (it was plugged in, of course, and grounded -- plug is confirmed good for ground), but I've done that before on many synths, with more powerful zaps than this one, and never had a problem, so I'm not sure that's what could've done it. However, if the circuitry is not very well insulated from such static shock (like older PCs used not to be, it's all in the board design, really; these days you can play frisbee with a current video card in very dry air and it'll still be fine, I can remember when looking crosswise at an electronic board while wrist-grounded and sweating killed the things...), that could've been the cause. OTOH I'd imagine we'd have A6's with a reputation for easy zap death by now if that were the case, so I may be reaching for straws. I normally have the unit on with my Pretec 2mb extra RAM card in, and turned it on without the card in (I normally reset my synth to default patch in User Bank 0, patch 1 when turning off, _just_ to be safe....), could that be a factor? I've tried it with card in, card out, no difference. Normally it confirms the card is good at 2048 RAM during boot-up. Gah! Thanks again for continued suggestions. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: matrix To: Steven Wartofsky ; stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Have you changed anything in the studio? This might sound odd, but for a couple of years my Matrix-6 would act up. I noticed it seemed to act up more when I moved it. I was sure it was internal hardware. One day I was redoing my studio and I went back to using the original power cord it came with as I no longer needed a longer chord for it. The problem went away. The Matrix-6 uses a standard three prong power chord similar to that of a PC and many other synths. I have no idea why it made a difference, but it did. I'm guessing it was a better fit when plugged in. I once had another synth that only seemed to like being plugged directly in the wall. Put it on a power strip and it wasn't happy. I know it's a long shot, but you never know. Try plugging it somewhere else. Unplug everthing from the synth but the power chord when starting it. If you changed absolutely anything in the studio, look there. I hope it's not internal hardware. BTW, does the A6 have any fuses? cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yep, tried that; they checksummed identically. At this point I suspect it's either hardware, or there needs to be some special way to reset everything to "seriously empty" before flashing anything back to RAM. I would assume the bootloader's ok, since all its functionality seems to be fine. I can reset with soft-button 2 to enter diagnostics mode, and confirm that all the knobs, buttons, ribbon, everything, is working fine at that level; I can reset with soft-button 3 to do a "hard reset" and wipe the user banks to factory default; I can reset with soft-button 4 to "soft reset"; I can reset with button 1 to try to load "Default Pgm"; I can reset with soft-button 7 to try to load the OS. All of that goes through the procedure. But the end result each time is that if I try to boot up the synth, from power off and wait ten (or 15, for that matter) seconds, after each of the above, the screen comes up with the Andromeda logo, does its flip to black and then back to normal, and then flashes something and basically "hangs" on the startup screen (all lights never come on, screen doesn't get to anything I can use). I had this problem with the first Andromeda I tried to buy before I got this one, a day after I got it back from the store. I switched it for a new unit and this one's been fine ever since back then. But now, it appears to have the same problem. I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. I had the strange experience of being able to upload all 2736 blocks to the synth this morning, over an hour, using a buffer size of 1024 and timeout/delay of 1000 milliseconds between each F0/F7 sysex package, and for once it counted all the way up without any hang. But then when I hit a button to flash it to ram, it went immediately to "Verify Block 5" and the do not interrupt screen, and I waited another half an hour, and it seemed hung there. Now when I power it up, I'm back to scratch. If I hold soft-reset 7 while powering up, it goes to the screen ready to receive Sysex, but using the same MIDIOX config as mentioned above, it's now doing what it was doing yesterday, getting stuck at receiving Block 1 and not going any further. I wish I knew what was wrong; this is the kind of fragility in its design that's always worried me about the A6, and has me thinking maybe I've had all my fun with this synth at this point. I'll see what it'll cost to get it repaired, but between the shipping costs, the likely damage or disappearance during shipping, the risk that something else will be messed up during repair...... it may be that I'd be happier just spending 500 bucks on an SH-201 or something and using it to control softsynths on my PC, and leaving the A6 behind. There's just a subtlety to sound designing on it that I'll miss, sigh. Even if the results are not really spectacular, just well-known to me. Dimension Pro and Rapture give me just as much flexibility in envelope control, though, and more, really, along with Reaktor, in terms of sound variety than I can ever get from a subtractive synth. ARGH. Thanks for your patience. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: stevie To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com ; Siro Mateos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > > *To:* A6@code404.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/ab769a2b/attachment.htm From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Sun Feb 4 14:17:13 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:04 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com><45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Defintely let us know what it ends up being and if there was anything preventative that could have been done. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: matrix Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yes, have tried all of these now -- still the same problem, unfortunately. The more I think about it, the more I realize there simply is no replacement for the A6, except another A6. I'm going to sweat through figuring out how to get it repaired, I guess. I really thought at first maybe it was a cold day and the synth wasn't ready to get up, but it's warmer today and same problem. There is a fuse in the power supply, but that's fine, and no bulging caps or anything (I've had that joy with PC power supplies in the past, yay). I recall giving the thing a bit of an electric shock (on the outside, bottom) when I walked over to it and turned it on (it was plugged in, of course, and grounded -- plug is confirmed good for ground), but I've done that before on many synths, with more powerful zaps than this one, and never had a problem, so I'm not sure that's what could've done it. However, if the circuitry is not very well insulated from such static shock (like older PCs used not to be, it's all in the board design, really; these days you can play frisbee with a current video card in very dry air and it'll still be fine, I can remember when looking crosswise at an electronic board while wrist-grounded and sweating killed the things...), that could've been the cause. OTOH I'd imagine we'd have A6's with a reputation for easy zap death by now if that were the case, so I may be reaching for straws. I normally have the unit on with my Pretec 2mb extra RAM card in, and turned it on without the card in (I normally reset my synth to default patch in User Bank 0, patch 1 when turning off, _just_ to be safe....), could that be a factor? I've tried it with card in, card out, no difference. Normally it confirms the card is good at 2048 RAM during boot-up. Gah! Thanks again for continued suggestions. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: matrix To: Steven Wartofsky ; stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Have you changed anything in the studio? This might sound odd, but for a couple of years my Matrix-6 would act up. I noticed it seemed to act up more when I moved it. I was sure it was internal hardware. One day I was redoing my studio and I went back to using the original power cord it came with as I no longer needed a longer chord for it. The problem went away. The Matrix-6 uses a standard three prong power chord similar to that of a PC and many other synths. I have no idea why it made a difference, but it did. I'm guessing it was a better fit when plugged in. I once had another synth that only seemed to like being plugged directly in the wall. Put it on a power strip and it wasn't happy. I know it's a long shot, but you never know. Try plugging it somewhere else. Unplug everthing from the synth but the power chord when starting it. If you changed absolutely anything in the studio, look there. I hope it's not internal hardware. BTW, does the A6 have any fuses? cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yep, tried that; they checksummed identically. At this point I suspect it's either hardware, or there needs to be some special way to reset everything to "seriously empty" before flashing anything back to RAM. I would assume the bootloader's ok, since all its functionality seems to be fine. I can reset with soft-button 2 to enter diagnostics mode, and confirm that all the knobs, buttons, ribbon, everything, is working fine at that level; I can reset with soft-button 3 to do a "hard reset" and wipe the user banks to factory default; I can reset with soft-button 4 to "soft reset"; I can reset with button 1 to try to load "Default Pgm"; I can reset with soft-button 7 to try to load the OS. All of that goes through the procedure. But the end result each time is that if I try to boot up the synth, from power off and wait ten (or 15, for that matter) seconds, after each of the above, the screen comes up with the Andromeda logo, does its flip to black and then back to normal, and then flashes something and basically "hangs" on the startup screen (all lights never come on, screen doesn't get to anything I can use). I had this problem with the first Andromeda I tried to buy before I got this one, a day after I got it back from the store. I switched it for a new unit and this one's been fine ever since back then. But now, it appears to have the same problem. I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. I had the strange experience of being able to upload all 2736 blocks to the synth this morning, over an hour, using a buffer size of 1024 and timeout/delay of 1000 milliseconds between each F0/F7 sysex package, and for once it counted all the way up without any hang. But then when I hit a button to flash it to ram, it went immediately to "Verify Block 5" and the do not interrupt screen, and I waited another half an hour, and it seemed hung there. Now when I power it up, I'm back to scratch. If I hold soft-reset 7 while powering up, it goes to the screen ready to receive Sysex, but using the same MIDIOX config as mentioned above, it's now doing what it was doing yesterday, getting stuck at receiving Block 1 and not going any further. I wish I knew what was wrong; this is the kind of fragility in its design that's always worried me about the A6, and has me thinking maybe I've had all my fun with this synth at this point. I'll see what it'll cost to get it repaired, but between the shipping costs, the likely damage or disappearance during shipping, the risk that something else will be messed up during repair...... it may be that I'd be happier just spending 500 bucks on an SH-201 or something and using it to control softsynths on my PC, and leaving the A6 behind. There's just a subtlety to sound designing on it that I'll miss, sigh. Even if the results are not really spectacular, just well-known to me. Dimension Pro and Rapture give me just as much flexibility in envelope control, though, and more, really, along with Reaktor, in terms of sound variety than I can ever get from a subtractive synth. ARGH. Thanks for your patience. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: stevie To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com ; Siro Mateos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > *To:* A6@code404.com > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070204/311b65a9/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Mon Feb 5 12:01:11 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:05 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust References: <45C5FDEA.5050506@hotmail.com><45C618EF.7060907@gmail.com> Message-ID: Man, there's just no way this is going to be easy. Actually, Alesis has been very helpful today, if you're patient on the phone and willing to wait a bit. I've spoken with both tech support (Justin and Dave) and Jack in parts, all good guys, and here's what I've found out so far: 1. T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ (www.tsirepair.com) sounds like the best place to send it to get it fixed. They're very thorough on the phone, and sound reliable. They recommended triple-boxing the keyboard (where am I going to find a box that'll go around the outside 2nd box my Andy originally came in?! That box is already 52" long x 22" wide by 12" high! Any tips?) to send it to them, good advice, but at that point I don't think I could even fit it in my car to bring it to Fedex; which goes to.... 2. Fedex won't pick up from home unless you send it Express; Express (3-day, the cheapest) is about $300 one-way. If you own an Andy, be sure to get an SUV or pick-up truck along with it, just in case you need to send it in for repair! 3. If the mainboard is dead (which I suspect it is), that's about a $600 part, I am told (possibly a little negotiable, we'll see, if I'm a good boy, maybe). 4. It may not be just a simple question of replacing the main PCB. There may be some special programming involved, I'm trying to get more info on that. So let's assume I send it in, it needs the $600 part, it's another $200 (easy) in time and labor, shipping anywhere from $63 (roll the dice) to $300, with extra effort to find a humongous unusually-shaped box. Sigh. Think I'll start saving for a Code4..... will keep you guys posted. It was fun while it lasted, oh well. Steve (discouraged and sick on top of it all, today) ----- Original Message ----- From: matrix To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Defintely let us know what it ends up being and if there was anything preventative that could have been done. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: matrix Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yes, have tried all of these now -- still the same problem, unfortunately. The more I think about it, the more I realize there simply is no replacement for the A6, except another A6. I'm going to sweat through figuring out how to get it repaired, I guess. I really thought at first maybe it was a cold day and the synth wasn't ready to get up, but it's warmer today and same problem. There is a fuse in the power supply, but that's fine, and no bulging caps or anything (I've had that joy with PC power supplies in the past, yay). I recall giving the thing a bit of an electric shock (on the outside, bottom) when I walked over to it and turned it on (it was plugged in, of course, and grounded -- plug is confirmed good for ground), but I've done that before on many synths, with more powerful zaps than this one, and never had a problem, so I'm not sure that's what could've done it. However, if the circuitry is not very well insulated from such static shock (like older PCs used not to be, it's all in the board design, really; these days you can play frisbee with a current video card in very dry air and it'll still be fine, I can remember when looking crosswise at an electronic board while wrist-grounded and sweating killed the things...), that could've been the cause. OTOH I'd imagine we'd have A6's with a reputation for easy zap death by now if that were the case, so I may be reaching for straws. I normally have the unit on with my Pretec 2mb extra RAM card in, and turned it on without the card in (I normally reset my synth to default patch in User Bank 0, patch 1 when turning off, _just_ to be safe....), could that be a factor? I've tried it with card in, card out, no difference. Normally it confirms the card is good at 2048 RAM during boot-up. Gah! Thanks again for continued suggestions. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: matrix To: Steven Wartofsky ; stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Have you changed anything in the studio? This might sound odd, but for a couple of years my Matrix-6 would act up. I noticed it seemed to act up more when I moved it. I was sure it was internal hardware. One day I was redoing my studio and I went back to using the original power cord it came with as I no longer needed a longer chord for it. The problem went away. The Matrix-6 uses a standard three prong power chord similar to that of a PC and many other synths. I have no idea why it made a difference, but it did. I'm guessing it was a better fit when plugged in. I once had another synth that only seemed to like being plugged directly in the wall. Put it on a power strip and it wasn't happy. I know it's a long shot, but you never know. Try plugging it somewhere else. Unplug everthing from the synth but the power chord when starting it. If you changed absolutely anything in the studio, look there. I hope it's not internal hardware. BTW, does the A6 have any fuses? cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: stevie Cc: A6@code404.com Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Yep, tried that; they checksummed identically. At this point I suspect it's either hardware, or there needs to be some special way to reset everything to "seriously empty" before flashing anything back to RAM. I would assume the bootloader's ok, since all its functionality seems to be fine. I can reset with soft-button 2 to enter diagnostics mode, and confirm that all the knobs, buttons, ribbon, everything, is working fine at that level; I can reset with soft-button 3 to do a "hard reset" and wipe the user banks to factory default; I can reset with soft-button 4 to "soft reset"; I can reset with button 1 to try to load "Default Pgm"; I can reset with soft-button 7 to try to load the OS. All of that goes through the procedure. But the end result each time is that if I try to boot up the synth, from power off and wait ten (or 15, for that matter) seconds, after each of the above, the screen comes up with the Andromeda logo, does its flip to black and then back to normal, and then flashes something and basically "hangs" on the startup screen (all lights never come on, screen doesn't get to anything I can use). I had this problem with the first Andromeda I tried to buy before I got this one, a day after I got it back from the store. I switched it for a new unit and this one's been fine ever since back then. But now, it appears to have the same problem. I would guess either that a) the flash RAM is faulty in some way; or b) the memory is corrupted and so won't boot up. I had the strange experience of being able to upload all 2736 blocks to the synth this morning, over an hour, using a buffer size of 1024 and timeout/delay of 1000 milliseconds between each F0/F7 sysex package, and for once it counted all the way up without any hang. But then when I hit a button to flash it to ram, it went immediately to "Verify Block 5" and the do not interrupt screen, and I waited another half an hour, and it seemed hung there. Now when I power it up, I'm back to scratch. If I hold soft-reset 7 while powering up, it goes to the screen ready to receive Sysex, but using the same MIDIOX config as mentioned above, it's now doing what it was doing yesterday, getting stuck at receiving Block 1 and not going any further. I wish I knew what was wrong; this is the kind of fragility in its design that's always worried me about the A6, and has me thinking maybe I've had all my fun with this synth at this point. I'll see what it'll cost to get it repaired, but between the shipping costs, the likely damage or disappearance during shipping, the risk that something else will be messed up during repair...... it may be that I'd be happier just spending 500 bucks on an SH-201 or something and using it to control softsynths on my PC, and leaving the A6 behind. There's just a subtlety to sound designing on it that I'll miss, sigh. Even if the results are not really spectacular, just well-known to me. Dimension Pro and Rapture give me just as much flexibility in envelope control, though, and more, really, along with Reaktor, in terms of sound variety than I can ever get from a subtractive synth. ARGH. Thanks for your patience. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: stevie To: Steven Wartofsky Cc: A6@code404.com ; Siro Mateos Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Dont know if you have tried this already, but maybe you should trying downloading the OS again in case the OS file you currently have is corrupted? stevie > I'm not sure, but I don't think so. > > I managed to upload the entire 2376 blocks this morning with MIDIOX, > slowly, then hit a switch to store to flash RAM; it seems stuck at > Block 5, should I reset and start again or wait a long time, or is it > really messed up? > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Siro Mateos > > *To:* A6@code404.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust > > Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > Well, my A6 seems to have just up and died this morning. Have > had it > > since before 2001, now when I turn it on, it just hangs. Have tried > > all the reset options, no luck. Have tried reloading OS, just gets > > stuck at loading block 1. > > Cheesy Alesis manufacture strikes again, or anything specific I > can do? > > It's very strange, I've been _so_ careful with this synth for so > many > > years, not a single shake, odd shock or anything. > > Oh well, on to the world of softsynths and digital, this thing was > > special once upon a time. > > Steve > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > I think your A6 is old enough to have problems with its lithium > battery... have you replaced it? Anyway, can anybody point out > what can > be expected from an A6 with an exhausted battery? Just loosing user > presets or more severe corruptions? > > I hope this helps... > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >A6 mailing list >A6@code404.com >http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070205/22540c1b/attachment.htm From digitale at pt.lu Sun Feb 11 05:59:20 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:05 2010 Subject: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c74de4$dcfc4130$67676353@digitale> In my opinion, you should forget FedEx. Go for UPS, I find them way more efficient and careful. They are cheaper too and they pick your pack from home. Well, all that at least here in Europe. How can a MB go wrong? Overheat? Short circuit? Hmm Good luck! Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of Steven Wartofsky Sent: lundi 5 f?vrier 2007 21:01 To: A6@code404.com Subject: Re: [A6] Another Andromeda bites the dust Man, there's just no way this is going to be easy. Actually, Alesis has been very helpful today, if you're patient on the phone and willing to wait a bit. I've spoken with both tech support (Justin and Dave) and Jack in parts, all good guys, and here's what I've found out so far: 1. T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ (www.tsirepair.com) sounds like the best place to send it to get it fixed. They're very thorough on the phone, and sound reliable. They recommended triple-boxing the keyboard (where am I going to find a box that'll go around the outside 2nd box my Andy originally came in?! That box is already 52" long x 22" wide by 12" high! Any tips?) to send it to them, good advice, but at that point I don't think I could even fit it in my car to bring it to Fedex; which goes to.... 2. Fedex won't pick up from home unless you send it Express; Express (3-day, the cheapest) is about $300 one-way. If you own an Andy, be sure to get an SUV or pick-up truck along with it, just in case you need to send it in for repair! 3. If the mainboard is dead (which I suspect it is), that's about a $600 part, I am told (possibly a little negotiable, we'll see, if I'm a good boy, maybe). 4. It may not be just a simple question of replacing the main PCB. There may be some special programming involved, I'm trying to get more info on that. So let's assume I send it in, it needs the $600 part, it's another $200 (easy) in time and labor, shipping anywhere from $63 (roll the dice) to $300, with extra effort to find a humongous unusually-shaped box. Sigh. Think I'll start saving for a Code4..... will keep you guys posted. It was fun while it lasted, oh well. Steve (discouraged and sick on top of it all, today) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070211/5426fa96/attachment.htm From kwalker at freenet.co.uk Wed Feb 14 05:50:13 2007 From: kwalker at freenet.co.uk (Kevin Walker) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: OS 1.40.13 beta Message-ID: Hi List, first post... Does anyone have this OS? From kwalker at freenet.co.uk Wed Feb 14 06:08:14 2007 From: kwalker at freenet.co.uk (Kevin Walker) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: VCA Click prob Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if anyone has a solution to the VCA click problem? I have tried all of the normal tricks, like a little VCA ENV attack, changing the engine optimizer to slow/smooth... I have noticed it happens when you turn down the cutoff of either filter. An audio signal must be present and hey presto the VCA gate signal appears in the audio. I am wondering if anyone knows of a hardware mod that could fix this? Maybe 0.1 caps across the power for the ASIC's or something like that? I have been talking with Alesis for the past month about other issues and have just requested a service manual. Does anyone on this list have access to one? cheers Kev From digitale at pt.lu Wed Feb 14 06:18:02 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: OS 1.40.13 beta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c75042$f0d47eb0$ba5d6353@digitale> Hi and welcome, Yeh good spot, I totally forgot about this OS that once I tried to find when I received my A6. Indeed, if someone could share it please I'd mostly appreciate it. Moreno > Hi List, first post... > > Does anyone have this OS? > _______________________________________________ From digitale at pt.lu Wed Feb 14 09:09:02 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: OS 1.40.13 beta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c7505a$d3b54720$ba5d6353@digitale> Thanks Eduardo! I hope to return you a help one day. =; ) Boele thanks also! Take care, Moreno > Here you go guys. From leonida9 at virgilio.it Wed Feb 14 09:15:18 2007 From: leonida9 at virgilio.it (Luca Lazzaroni) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] problem with amp env graphic display Message-ID: <110c1404318.leonida9@virgilio.it> hello everybody, i'm not sure if this thing has already been pointed out before, since i'm almost a new member of the a6 mailing list. anyway, does anyone know a way to solve the fact that on the A6 if you turn a knob in the env sections (all the three lines of knobs on the right of the A6), nothing happens in the display, except for the "sustain" level? the other pass from bottom to the top without letting you see the middle values. Any idea can be very appreciated, it's really incredible that a synth that costs more than 2000? has this problem. byez Luca From radioflux at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 14 11:36:26 2007 From: radioflux at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Evenblij) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:06 2010 Subject: [A6] problem with amp env graphic display In-Reply-To: <110c1404318.leonida9@virgilio.it> Message-ID: <20070214193626.74035.qmail@web23104.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --- Luca Lazzaroni wrote: > does anyone know a way to solve the fact > that on the A6 if you > turn a knob in the env sections (all the three lines > of knobs on the > right of the A6), nothing happens in the display, > except for the > "sustain" level? Keep in mind that there are only 3 'levels' here, and that not all 3 make sense to display at all times. The SUSTAIN level in the graph always follows the movement of the knob on the panel. The D2LEVEL only makes sense if both decay times (D1TIME and D2TIME) have values that are greater than zero. Otherwise, it will not be visible. Similarly, you will only see the R2LEVEL change if the release 1 time (R1TIME) is greater than zero. Did you try this? Paul __________________________________________________ andromizer -- patch randomizer for a6 http://www.knoware.nl/users/paulpaul/dm/andromizer ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From kwalker at freenet.co.uk Wed Feb 14 12:15:36 2007 From: kwalker at freenet.co.uk (Kevin Walker) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:07 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: UK based Andromeda for sale Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone on the list know of anyone in the UK who wants to buy a A6? From s_wartofsky at msn.com Wed Feb 14 21:28:16 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:07 2010 Subject: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Message-ID: Well, a little update on my A6-died saga. Apparently my synth made it safely to T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ. That's the good news. The bad news is that global warming has precipitated a new Ice Age for the entire Northeastern and Midwestern U.S. So I may never see my synth again, but that's the least of our problems at this point..... My sympathies for everyone stuck in the blizzard up there, and I hope you all have had a safe and happy Valentine's Day despite the weather. And I want to thank everyone on the list for your sympathy and attempts to help, it was very heartwarming, and I am now hopeful I may get my instrument back in working condition at some point (perhaps July, when New Jersey has finally started to thaw out....). Thanks again! Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, a little update on my A6-died saga. Apparently my synth made it safely to T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ. That's the good news. The bad news is that global warming has precipitated a new Ice Age for the entire Northeastern and Midwestern U.S. So I may never see my synth again, but that's the least of our problems at this point..... My sympathies for everyone stuck in the blizzard up there, and I hope you all have had a safe and happy Valentine's Day despite the weather. And I want to thank everyone on the list for your sympathy and attempts to help, it was very heartwarming, and I am now hopeful I may get my instrument back in working condition at some point (perhaps July, when New Jersey has finally started to thaw out....). Thanks again! Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070216/d5567e7b/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Fri Feb 16 09:26:49 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:08 2010 Subject: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! References: <000201c751ec$688f6c30$bdd6cf58@digitale> Message-ID: Moreno, Yes, let's not make this a topic of conversation here, but my impression is that there are a small percentage of us here in the US who are outraged our government has basically turned into a rubber stamp for big corporations to make money at the entire planet's expense; and the rest are busy driving giant trucks and SUVs and believe any propaganda they hear that convinces them a wasteful lifestyle is perfectly fine. I put myself in the former category; my family owns small, fuel-efficient cars and we drive them into the ground (buying a new vehicle, period, frequently is one of the harshest things you can do as a solo consumer to the environment). We conserve as much as we can, and recycle as much as we can. We try to have a use and repair instead of use once then throw away policy. It's really not that hard. But our entire culture and propaganda system encourages massive waste, massive consumption and ignorance, at multiple levels, has done so for over 20 years now. I don't see that changing radically any time soon. Apologies, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Moreno RENGA To: 'Andromeda UserGroup' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Well, what I'm going to say/ask might sound totally off topic, but it certainly affects you in a way or another and certainly the interaction with your music. Do US citizens accept so easily that the US government didn't accept the new international protocol agreements on reducing their emission of harmful gazes to the environment??? I'm talking about it because it doesn't only concern the US citizens but also myself, living in Europe. Think about it... Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of Steven Wartofsky Sent: jeudi 15 f?vrier 2007 06:28 To: Andromeda UserGroup Subject: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Well, a little update on my A6-died saga. Apparently my synth made it safely to T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ. That's the good news. The bad news is that global warming has precipitated a new Ice Age for the entire Northeastern and Midwestern U.S. So I may never see my synth again, but that's the least of our problems at this point..... My sympathies for everyone stuck in the blizzard up there, and I hope you all have had a safe and happy Valentine's Day despite the weather. And I want to thank everyone on the list for your sympathy and attempts to help, it was very heartwarming, and I am now hopeful I may get my instrument back in working condition at some point (perhaps July, when New Jersey has finally started to thaw out....). Thanks again! Steve _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070216/7ecd39c6/attachment.htm From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Fri Feb 16 10:12:25 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:08 2010 Subject: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! References: <000201c751ec$688f6c30$bdd6cf58@digitale> Message-ID: Yep, you get all sides of the coin in the US. Check this out http://imdb.com/title/tt0497116/. It was done by Al Gore who ran for president and actually won the popular vote running agains Bush but lost the election. There is also http://imdb.com/title/tt0361596/ done by Michael Moore and American. So, again you get all sides of the coin in the US. It's a big country with tons of Europeans, Asians, Hispanics, Africans, etc... But yes, big business rules here and it feeds individual freedom by providing jobs and opportunity, but unfortunately sometimes some business do so at the expense of the environment and others. One of the biggest issues during the Bush election was drilling in Alaska. The Democrats were completely against it while the Republicans were for it. But people had 911 on their minds and Bush won. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Wartofsky To: 'Andromeda UserGroup' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Moreno, Yes, let's not make this a topic of conversation here, but my impression is that there are a small percentage of us here in the US who are outraged our government has basically turned into a rubber stamp for big corporations to make money at the entire planet's expense; and the rest are busy driving giant trucks and SUVs and believe any propaganda they hear that convinces them a wasteful lifestyle is perfectly fine. I put myself in the former category; my family owns small, fuel-efficient cars and we drive them into the ground (buying a new vehicle, period, frequently is one of the harshest things you can do as a solo consumer to the environment). We conserve as much as we can, and recycle as much as we can. We try to have a use and repair instead of use once then throw away policy. It's really not that hard. But our entire culture and propaganda system encourages massive waste, massive consumption and ignorance, at multiple levels, has done so for over 20 years now. I don't see that changing radically any time soon. Apologies, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Moreno RENGA To: 'Andromeda UserGroup' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Well, what I'm going to say/ask might sound totally off topic, but it certainly affects you in a way or another and certainly the interaction with your music. Do US citizens accept so easily that the US government didn't accept the new international protocol agreements on reducing their emission of harmful gazes to the environment??? I'm talking about it because it doesn't only concern the US citizens but also myself, living in Europe. Think about it... Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of Steven Wartofsky Sent: jeudi 15 f?vrier 2007 06:28 To: Andromeda UserGroup Subject: [A6] A6 in for repair, yay! Well, a little update on my A6-died saga. Apparently my synth made it safely to T.S.I. in Paramus, NJ. That's the good news. The bad news is that global warming has precipitated a new Ice Age for the entire Northeastern and Midwestern U.S. So I may never see my synth again, but that's the least of our problems at this point..... My sympathies for everyone stuck in the blizzard up there, and I hope you all have had a safe and happy Valentine's Day despite the weather. And I want to thank everyone on the list for your sympathy and attempts to help, it was very heartwarming, and I am now hopeful I may get my instrument back in working condition at some point (perhaps July, when New Jersey has finally started to thaw out....). Thanks again! Steve _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070216/1877edef/attachment.htm From leo.lydia at wanadoo.nl Fri Feb 16 10:46:28 2007 From: leo.lydia at wanadoo.nl (Leo &Lydia) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:08 2010 Subject: [A6] RE: A6 in for repair, yay Message-ID: the whole idea of constant growth is rediculous, my penny From joant at ieee.org Wed Feb 21 11:49:14 2007 From: joant at ieee.org (Joan Touzet) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] A happy return! Message-ID: Hi folks, Somehow when I wasn't looking I got unsubscribed from the mailing list, accidentally. My A6 is still alive and well, as is http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ -- also willing to publish add'l info or provide a conduit for others who wish to do so. What have I missed? -Joan From scottmetzger at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 11:59:44 2007 From: scottmetzger at gmail.com (Scott Metzger) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] A happy return! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alesis was giving out free A6's to the first 50 people that replied back from the this list. Sorry you missed it. :( > What have I missed? > > -Joan > _______________________________________________ From joant at ieee.org Wed Feb 21 12:14:13 2007 From: joant at ieee.org (Joan Touzet) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] A happy return! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott you scurvy dog. :D Great to see you. On 2/21/07, Scott Metzger wrote: > Alesis was giving out free A6's to the first 50 people that replied > back from the this list. > > Sorry you missed it. > > :( > > > > What have I missed? > > > > -Joan > > _______________________________________________ > From radioflux at yahoo.co.uk Wed Feb 21 13:45:28 2007 From: radioflux at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Evenblij) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] A happy return! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <745196.27556.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --- Joan Touzet wrote: > > What have I missed? A6 OS 1.41.05 with fixes for the following: Poly AT Sequencer MIDI out "zero" touch point on the ribbon FM VCA calibration LFO rate now goes up to 500Hz new engine optimization levels: EDGY, SUPER & COSMIC ... and some other stuff :-) ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From soarera6 at gmail.com Wed Feb 21 14:30:58 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] Bass Drum help Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> I want to program a nice BD on my A6. I don't want to use the traditional self oscillating LP Filter sweep since that becomes too techno I think. Wanna use some other attack like noise or pulse. And I guess it should be soft and click like. I have set the engine optimizer to ultrafast. Would I start by using a pulse or sine (or saw or triangle) wave for the body? If you know any available patches with a BD like this please let me know. Hope you can help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A faster LFO would be nice, though.You can still use VCO 2 for LFO duties though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Evenblij" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [A6] A happy return! > --- Joan Touzet wrote: >> >> What have I missed? > > A6 OS 1.41.05 > > with fixes for the following: > > Poly AT > Sequencer MIDI out > "zero" touch point on the ribbon > FM VCA calibration > LFO rate now goes up to 500Hz > new engine optimization levels: EDGY, SUPER & COSMIC > > ... and some other stuff > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with > All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > From lawst.synth at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 07:11:04 2007 From: lawst.synth at gmail.com (lawst synth) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:09 2010 Subject: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates Message-ID: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I have been considering buying an Andromeda 2nd hand and found someone who is selling one. I have had a look over it and everything seems fine, however I noticed the beating rate between oscillators would often vary between key presses. Is this normal? thanks, lawst -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070222/f2ad020c/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 09:01:27 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:10 2010 Subject: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates In-Reply-To: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702220901gae26776l7b1db5bdd12743db@mail.gmail.com> Was it just autotuned? Sounds like it wasn't. I have this beating whenever my Andy's not in fine tuning. When you pres the keys it's stepping through the oscillators and you clearly hear the voices that are out of tune. Remember it needs about 15 min. to warm up to be in stable tuning. Actually it's been many days since I have autotuned my Andy. When I turn it on it's slightly out of tune but after the warm up time it's in fine tuning again. Good Luck. On 2/22/07, lawst synth wrote: > > Hi! > > I have been considering buying an Andromeda 2nd hand and found someone who > is selling one. I have had a look over it and everything seems fine, however > I noticed the beating rate between oscillators would often vary between key > presses. Is this normal? > > thanks, > lawst > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070222/ef623035/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Thu Feb 22 20:42:25 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:10 2010 Subject: [A6] A happy return! References: <745196.27556.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <000b01c75609$1102a970$0100000a@soppenf70da062> Message-ID: BTW I heard from what I consider a reliable source today that Alesis is still actively manufacturing new Andromedas with no plans to stop, at a reasonable rate for such a complex synth; so, whether you be potential buyer or distributor, it sounds like there is still hope you'll have fresh supply on the way eventually. Remain calm, hopeful, and exuberant! This truly is a lovely and unique instrument. Hang in there and be patient. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Remi Flygel To: a6@code404.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [A6] A happy return! Keep dreaming, fella. A faster LFO would be nice, though.You can still use VCO 2 for LFO duties though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Evenblij" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [A6] A happy return! > --- Joan Touzet > wrote: >> >> What have I missed? > > A6 OS 1.41.05 > > with fixes for the following: > > Poly AT > Sequencer MIDI out > "zero" touch point on the ribbon > FM VCA calibration > LFO rate now goes up to 500Hz > new engine optimization levels: EDGY, SUPER & COSMIC > > ... and some other stuff > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with > All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070222/336f3e29/attachment.htm From lawst.synth at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 08:08:32 2007 From: lawst.synth at gmail.com (lawst synth) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:10 2010 Subject: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702220901gae26776l7b1db5bdd12743db@mail.gmail.com> References: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> <21c7b5a00702220901gae26776l7b1db5bdd12743db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <601455c20702230808q365fff7fn9cf5ff0db790696@mail.gmail.com> Yea it was auto tuned. It didnt happen very often just every once in a while. Kevin: so this is normal then? - how long have you had your a6 for? lawst On 2/22/07, Soarer A6 wrote: > > Was it just autotuned? Sounds like it wasn't. I have this beating whenever > my Andy's not in fine tuning. When you pres the keys it's stepping through > the oscillators and you clearly hear the voices that are out of tune. > Remember it needs about 15 min. to warm up to be in stable tuning. > > Actually it's been many days since I have autotuned my Andy. When I turn > it on it's slightly out of tune but after the warm up time it's in fine > tuning again. > > Good Luck. > > On 2/22/07, lawst synth wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I have been considering buying an Andromeda 2nd hand and found someone > > who is selling one. I have had a look over it and everything seems fine, > > however I noticed the beating rate between oscillators would often vary > > between key presses. Is this normal? > > > > thanks, > > lawst > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070223/e35e7aef/attachment.htm From lawst.synth at gmail.com Fri Feb 23 09:52:21 2007 From: lawst.synth at gmail.com (lawst) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: Fwd: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates In-Reply-To: <601455c20702230808q365fff7fn9cf5ff0db790696@mail.gmail.com> References: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> <21c7b5a00702220901gae26776l7b1db5bdd12743db@mail.gmail.com> <601455c20702230808q365fff7fn9cf5ff0db790696@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <601455c20702230952v74793577v31754fe1524856d8@mail.gmail.com> Can anyone else confirm if their Andromeda does the same? lawst ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: lawst synth Date: Feb 23, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates To: Soarer A6 Cc: a6@code404.com Yea it was auto tuned. It didnt happen very often just every once in a while. Kevin: so this is normal then? - how long have you had your a6 for? lawst On 2/22/07, Soarer A6 wrote: > > Was it just autotuned? Sounds like it wasn't. I have this beating whenever > my Andy's not in fine tuning. When you pres the keys it's stepping through > the oscillators and you clearly hear the voices that are out of tune. > Remember it needs about 15 min. to warm up to be in stable tuning. > > Actually it's been many days since I have autotuned my Andy. When I turn > it on it's slightly out of tune but after the warm up time it's in fine > tuning again. > > Good Luck. > > On 2/22/07, lawst synth wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I have been considering buying an Andromeda 2nd hand and found someone > > who is selling one. I have had a look over it and everything seems fine, > > however I noticed the beating rate between oscillators would often vary > > between key presses. Is this normal? > > > > thanks, > > lawst > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070223/af89e745/attachment.htm From georg.mueller at dplanet.ch Fri Feb 23 12:30:43 2007 From: georg.mueller at dplanet.ch (Dr. Georg =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?=) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates References: <601455c20702220711o6369c3a5l44e758040108ac9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45DF4EF3.244B7443@dplanet.ch> lawst synth schrieb: > > Hi! > > I have been considering buying an Andromeda 2nd hand and found someone who is selling one. I have > had a look over it and everything seems fine, however I noticed the beating rate between > oscillators would often vary between key presses. Is this normal? Well, it is in the end an analog machine. If you want perfect tuning go digital or DSP. It should not be the case to a dramatic extent when all the tuning tricks like temptune and background tuning are active. Georg. From radioflux at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 23 14:39:01 2007 From: radioflux at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Evenblij) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: Fwd: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates In-Reply-To: <601455c20702230952v74793577v31754fe1524856d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <745814.94573.qm@web23106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --- lawst wrote: > Can anyone else confirm if their Andromeda does the > same? > Yep, mine does, and has always done so. I have one of the pre-Numark units, and I consider it normal behaviour. Welcome to the world of analogue synthesis. Paul __________________________________________________ andromizer -- patch randomizer for a6 http://www.knoware.nl/users/paulpaul/dm/andromizer ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From coolcolj at optushome.com.au Fri Feb 23 18:17:30 2007 From: coolcolj at optushome.com.au (Colin Chung) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] Hello... Message-ID: <003801c757b9$fb9af030$d25e6b3a@co3000977a> I was wondering why I wasn't getting any new posts here... seems I have been unsubscribed from the list! Doh looks like I have missed a lot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070224/18fd3f29/attachment.htm From radioflux at yahoo.co.uk Sat Feb 24 02:54:51 2007 From: radioflux at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Evenblij) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> Message-ID: <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> This was sent by our good list maintainer a while back. It may explain why some people appear to have been unsubscribed. If so, then the subscription logs may not be complete... :( --- William Yardley wrote: > I got an email from Georg M?ller, indicating that > the list wasn't > working. To be honest, I hadn't noticed at all that > it was broken. > > There's some good news and some bad news in all of > this; the bad news is > that (despite having some simple backups), the list > configuration and > member list were destroyed and unrecoverable. The > good news is that I > was (I think) able to reconstruct the list from the > subscription logs. > Anyone who subscribed and didn't later unsubscribe > or get unsubscribed > for having a bouncing addres should now be > subscribed. > > I went ahead and sent out the welcome messages with > everyone's > subscription; however, I hadn't yet reset the list's > hostname properly > in the Mailman configuration. Please still continue > to send to > "a6@code404.com". > > Anyone who subscribed to the digest, but later > changed to receiving the > non-digest version of the list has probably been > switched back to the > digest version. > > Also, passwords, your "real name", and other > user-specific settings have > been reset to the defaults. > > Please let me know if you see any problems, or if > you've been subscribed > when you shouldn't be, and I'll look into it > further. There may be some > minor configuration tweaks and such that still need > to be done. > > Regards, > William Yardley > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From soarera6 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 04:56:05 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: Bass Drum help In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> References: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702240456v57dcb6f0tef026d4419ea3d46@mail.gmail.com> Anyone? Guess I just need some help on the most effective way of doing this on the A6. My result so far is wack. Can I do it all in one patch? Any Patches already avilable? Soarer On 2/21/07, Soarer A6 wrote: > > I want to program a nice BD on my A6. > I don't want to use the traditional self oscillating LP Filter sweep since > that becomes too techno I think. > Wanna use some other attack like noise or pulse. And I guess it should be > soft and click like. > I have set the engine optimizer to ultrafast. > Would I start by using a pulse or sine (or saw or triangle) wave for the > body? > > If you know any available patches with a BD like this please let me know. > > Hope you can help. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070224/81a8950a/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Sat Feb 24 05:03:41 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing like this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that deserves a forum -if I may say so... Soarer On 2/24/07, Paul Evenblij wrote: > > This was sent by our good list maintainer a while > back. It may explain why some people appear to have > been unsubscribed. If so, then the subscription logs > may not be complete... :( > > > --- William Yardley wrote: > > I got an email from Georg M?ller, indicating that > > the list wasn't > > working. To be honest, I hadn't noticed at all that > > it was broken. > > > > There's some good news and some bad news in all of > > this; the bad news is > > that (despite having some simple backups), the list > > configuration and > > member list were destroyed and unrecoverable. The > > good news is that I > > was (I think) able to reconstruct the list from the > > subscription logs. > > Anyone who subscribed and didn't later unsubscribe > > or get unsubscribed > > for having a bouncing addres should now be > > subscribed. > > > > I went ahead and sent out the welcome messages with > > everyone's > > subscription; however, I hadn't yet reset the list's > > hostname properly > > in the Mailman configuration. Please still continue > > to send to > > "a6@code404.com". > > > > Anyone who subscribed to the digest, but later > > changed to receiving the > > non-digest version of the list has probably been > > switched back to the > > digest version. > > > > Also, passwords, your "real name", and other > > user-specific settings have > > been reset to the defaults. > > > > Please let me know if you see any problems, or if > > you've been subscribed > > when you shouldn't be, and I'll look into it > > further. There may be some > > minor configuration tweaks and such that still need > > to be done. > > > > Regards, > > William Yardley > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address > from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070224/e47a7b16/attachment.htm From schaltstern at curious-electric.com Sat Feb 24 07:17:39 2007 From: schaltstern at curious-electric.com (schaltstern) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I second that. > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing like > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that > deserves a > forum -if I may say so... > > Soarer > From georg.mueller at dplanet.ch Sun Feb 25 02:54:18 2007 From: georg.mueller at dplanet.ch (Dr. Georg =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?=) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> schaltstern schrieb: > > I second that. > > > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing like > > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that > > deserves a > > forum -if I may say so... This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching the archives). Real men (and women) use analog. Real men (and women) use mailing lists. :-) Georg. From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Sun Feb 25 09:56:03 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:11 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net><837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com><21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> Message-ID: Correction: Lazy men like me use mailing lists. :) Everything comes directly to me when it comes in - I don't have to remember to go to a forum to look for the latest. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Georg M?ller" To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > schaltstern schrieb: >> >> I second that. >> >> > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing >> > like >> > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that >> > deserves a >> > forum -if I may say so... > > This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching the > archives). > > Real men (and women) use analog. > Real men (and women) use mailing lists. > > :-) > > Georg. > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > From coolcolj at optushome.com.au Sun Feb 25 00:35:43 2007 From: coolcolj at optushome.com.au (Colin Chung) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:12 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: Bass Drum help References: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> <21c7b5a00702240456v57dcb6f0tef026d4419ea3d46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005c01c758b7$f106e990$d25e6b3a@co3000977a> The tr-909 uses a flattend triangle wave for it's main bass drum body I like using the noise FM for drum sounds. It's been a while so my memory is hazy though :) The ultrafast setting will give you a click anyway.... depends on what kind of bass drum tone your after I guess But I remeber making a bassdrum with a triangle wave for the main body and a self-oscillating filter for the attack. That was more of a dancey drum sound though That's more like a 909 approach ----- Original Message ----- From: Soarer A6 To: a6 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: [A6] Re: Bass Drum help Anyone? Guess I just need some help on the most effective way of doing this on the A6. My result so far is wack. Can I do it all in one patch? Any Patches already avilable? Soarer On 2/21/07, Soarer A6 wrote: I want to program a nice BD on my A6. I don't want to use the traditional self oscillating LP Filter sweep since that becomes too techno I think. Wanna use some other attack like noise or pulse. And I guess it should be soft and click like. I have set the engine optimizer to ultrafast. Would I start by using a pulse or sine (or saw or triangle) wave for the body? If you know any available patches with a BD like this please let me know. Hope you can help. From ssgt_725 at jcom.home.ne.jp Sun Feb 25 23:51:43 2007 From: ssgt_725 at jcom.home.ne.jp (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEokRCRfJCskcxsoQg==?=) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:12 2010 Subject: [A6] Hello! Message-ID: <000701c7597a$f57a1790$0400a8c0@natsumikan> My name is nyatsuko. I'm Japanese woman. I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will be your friend. :P On 2/25/07, ????? wrote: > > > My name is nyatsuko. > I'm Japanese woman. > I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. > Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site. > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > From leo.lydia at wanadoo.nl Mon Feb 26 01:14:18 2007 From: leo.lydia at wanadoo.nl (Leo &Lydia) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:12 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: A6 Digest, Vol 6, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: <20070225200008.79B1BA517@mitch.veggiechinese.net> References: <20070225200008.79B1BA517@mitch.veggiechinese.net> Message-ID: My name is nyatsuko. I'm Japanese woman. I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site. as already mentioned: it also seems widely known old men use mailboxes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/78aff99f/attachment.htm From radioflux at yahoo.co.uk Mon Feb 26 03:35:33 2007 From: radioflux at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Evenblij) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:12 2010 Subject: [A6] Hello! In-Reply-To: <000701c7597a$f57a1790$0400a8c0@natsumikan> Message-ID: <712373.96675.qm@web23113.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi Nyatsuko, Welcome to the A6 mailing list. Most of the people on this list own an Andromeda, so if you have any questions about the synth, we will do our best to answer them. Cheers, Paul --- なつみかん wrote: > My name is nyatsuko. > I'm Japanese woman. > I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. > Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site.> _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From digitale at pt.lu Mon Feb 26 04:31:45 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:12 2010 Subject: [A6] Hello! In-Reply-To: <000001c75995$dfc3d1a0$14656353@digitale> Message-ID: <000201c759a2$140b5710$14656353@digitale> By the way, just kidding of course. I?m Italian you know =; ) Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of Moreno RENGA Sent: lundi 26 f?vrier 2007 12:04 To: a6@code404.com Subject: RE: [A6] Hello! Oooooooooo Japanese women!!! make me go Mmmmm Helloooo! ^^ Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of ?????????? Sent: lundi 26 f?vrier 2007 08:52 To: a6@code404.com Subject: [A6] Hello! My name is nyatsuko. I'm Japanese woman. I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/cd823acd/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 05:22:07 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] Re: Bass Drum help In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702260458v694464d6rd6067ead25b25dfd@mail.gmail.com> References: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> <21c7b5a00702240456v57dcb6f0tef026d4419ea3d46@mail.gmail.com> <005c01c758b7$f106e990$d25e6b3a@co3000977a> <21c7b5a00702260458v694464d6rd6067ead25b25dfd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702260522s6f3513dbs7af697eb0e10cd3e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for your replies. I did find a preset in the "04 Drums A (72).SYX" Bank that sounds closer to what I'm after though the click is a little weak compared to a jomox BD. I'll experiment some more and try the noise FM also. > On 2/25/07, Colin Chung wrote: > > > > > > The tr-909 uses a flattend triangle wave for it's main bass drum body > > > > I like using the noise FM for drum sounds. > > It's been a while so my memory is hazy though :) > > > > The ultrafast setting will give you a click anyway.... > > > > depends on what kind of bass drum tone your after I guess > > But I remeber making a bassdrum with a triangle wave for the main body > > and a > > self-oscillating filter > > for the attack. That was more of a dancey drum sound though > > That's more like a 909 approach > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Soarer A6 > > To: a6 > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:56 PM > > Subject: [A6] Re: Bass Drum help > > > > > > Anyone? Guess I just need some help on the most effective way of doing > > this > > on the A6. My result so far is wack. Can I do it all in one patch? Any > > Patches already avilable? > > > > Soarer > > > > > > > > On 2/21/07, Soarer A6 wrote: > > I want to program a nice BD on my A6. > > I don't want to use the traditional self oscillating LP Filter sweep > > since > > that becomes too techno I think. > > Wanna use some other attack like noise or pulse. And I guess it should > > be > > soft and click like. > > I have set the engine optimizer to ultrafast. > > Would I start by using a pulse or sine (or saw or triangle) wave for the > > body? > > > > If you know any available patches with a BD like this please let me > > know. > > > > Hope you can help. > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/51b0f562/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 05:24:56 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702260524y36c962dehd34b756148425693@mail.gmail.com> See now I even forgot to send this to the list as well! I still receive emails with the messages on the other forums I've subscribed to. This mailing list is fine but in a forum its much easier to find around in the old posts and you can easily edit your post if you make errors or post some crazy shit that you shouldn't have while being stoned and drunk etc. ;-) And let's not forget the smilies! Oh all the smilies... ok I'll stop here. But I appreciate having an active mailing list rather than a very quiet forum like the one at electro-music. On 2/25/07, matrix wrote: > > Correction: > > Lazy men like me use mailing lists. :) > > Everything comes directly to me when it comes in - I don't have to > remember > to go to a forum to look for the latest. > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Georg M?ller" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:54 AM > Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > > > schaltstern schrieb: > >> > >> I second that. > >> > >> > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing > >> > like > >> > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that > >> > deserves a > >> > forum -if I may say so... > > > > This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching the > > archives). > > > > Real men (and women) use analog. > > Real men (and women) use mailing lists. > > > > :-) > > > > Georg. > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/2122206b/attachment.htm From wasubot at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 05:31:04 2007 From: wasubot at gmail.com (wasubot) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] Bass Drum help In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> References: <21c7b5a00702211430k13a488d4uf238e75fe12f250d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <643003cc0702260531l7917bfabu161421fc1174e327@mail.gmail.com> It might be worthwhile looking a this article as a guide: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb02/articles/synthsecrets0202.asp Regards Wasubot On 2/22/07, Soarer A6 wrote: > > I want to program a nice BD on my A6. > I don't want to use the traditional self oscillating LP Filter sweep since > that becomes too techno I think. > Wanna use some other attack like noise or pulse. And I guess it should be > soft and click like. > I have set the engine optimizer to ultrafast. > Would I start by using a pulse or sine (or saw or triangle) wave for the > body? > > If you know any available patches with a BD like this please let me know. > > Hope you can help. > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -- Wasubot ---------------------------- Notes: Special Sequence Mixed For Dancing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070227/e01bec49/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 05:43:10 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] Presets request! Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702260543m53822220oa5d6c83e41bd190f@mail.gmail.com> Hello Folks I've posted a presets request at Rob Papens forum. But if anyone else think they can make a bank or 2 of such presets as I described you're most welcome. on the kvraudio site I often see announcements like this of sound designers making a bank of presets for soft syths. We're willing to pay for well made sounds in this category but they don't have to be commercial of course... ;-) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2401695#2401695 Here's the post for the old lazy men ;-) : Hi Rob how about making more presets for the Andromeda A6? I got your bank of course but find it and all the other banks a little old school and trancey. There are good sounds among though. What I'd like to see or hear is some more modern sounds for electronica and ambient consisting of the usual keys, pads, bases, fx, drums/percussion etc. and maybe a few downtempo more quiet sequences/arps. I'd pay for more well made presets if they were in this category. I just got the synth and like it a lot and making my own sounds but it would be great to get some inspiration and learn from an expert. And mao wrote: yes... we need more preset... more RP preset ! But I think that the A6 lacks of "normal" sounds... there are tons of evolving pad, iper-modulated things and bells and whistles... Sure A6 can do these sounds... But I like simple pure analog sounds... like what you can hear listening to Wendy Carlos playing J.S. Bach on the Moog... simple but unique sounds... There few sounds like that on the whole bank set for Andromeda... Someone says that A6 doesn't sounds analog to a first test... is it because of the "workstation" type preset sounds? What about something more "old & usual" ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/55f5885b/attachment.htm From s_wartofsky at msn.com Mon Feb 26 07:05:52 2007 From: s_wartofsky at msn.com (Steven Wartofsky) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] Presets request! References: <21c7b5a00702260543m53822220oa5d6c83e41bd190f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had most of a bank of my own from-scratch presets made prior to my A6 dying. If it's successfully resurrected, returns, and my Pretec card wasn't zapped by its illness, and/or I can find the sysex backup on my other computer, I'll gladly send it on to you in celebration. ----- Original Message ----- From: Soarer A6 To: a6 Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: [A6] Presets request! Hello Folks I've posted a presets request at Rob Papens forum. But if anyone else think they can make a bank or 2 of such presets as I described you're most welcome. on the kvraudio site I often see announcements like this of sound designers making a bank of presets for soft syths. We're willing to pay for well made sounds in this category but they don't have to be commercial of course... ;-) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2401695#2401695 Here's the post for the old lazy men ;-) : Hi Rob how about making more presets for the Andromeda A6? I got your bank of course but find it and all the other banks a little old school and trancey. There are good sounds among though. What I'd like to see or hear is some more modern sounds for electronica and ambient consisting of the usual keys, pads, bases, fx, drums/percussion etc. and maybe a few downtempo more quiet sequences/arps. I'd pay for more well made presets if they were in this category. I just got the synth and like it a lot and making my own sounds but it would be great to get some inspiration and learn from an expert. And mao wrote: yes... we need more preset... more RP preset ! But I think that the A6 lacks of "normal" sounds... there are tons of evolving pad, iper-modulated things and bells and whistles... Sure A6 can do these sounds... But I like simple pure analog sounds... like what you can hear listening to Wendy Carlos playing J.S. Bach on the Moog... simple but unique sounds... There few sounds like that on the whole bank set for Andromeda... Someone says that A6 doesn't sounds analog to a first test... is it because of the "workstation" type preset sounds? What about something more "old & usual" ? _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/9508aa6e/attachment.htm From ssgt_725 at jcom.home.ne.jp Mon Feb 26 07:28:30 2007 From: ssgt_725 at jcom.home.ne.jp (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJEokRCRfJCskcxsoQg==?=) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] OK! Message-ID: <003a01c759ba$c4e26930$0400a8c0@natsumikan> >Scott Metzger >Moreno RENGA >Paul Evenblij >Moreno RENGA >Colin Chung Very very thanks everyone!! The English that I use may be funny... I do not understand usage of a mailing list well, too... But I do my best :-)) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070227/7041478b/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 07:33:09 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:13 2010 Subject: [A6] Presets request! In-Reply-To: References: <21c7b5a00702260543m53822220oa5d6c83e41bd190f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702260733j51269681te67f305188e95553@mail.gmail.com> Cheers guys and thumbs up for your positive replies! I like what Boele is saying about a dedicated presets area somewhere. Where would it be? At http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/ ? It would be nice if all presets/banks were gathered so that everyone could download them. But you're welcome to send your bank to me of course. And if someone, like myself only has 1 or 2 presets to offer that should be fine to post those too. Also this would make it possible to upload a program for testing, developing and discussing. On 2/26/07, Steven Wartofsky wrote: > > I had most of a bank of my own from-scratch presets made prior to my A6 > dying. If it's successfully resurrected, returns, and my Pretec card wasn't > zapped by its illness, and/or I can find the sysex backup on my other > computer, I'll gladly send it on to you in celebration. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Soarer A6 > *To:* a6 > *Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2007 7:43 AM > *Subject:* [A6] Presets request! > > Hello Folks > > I've posted a presets request at Rob Papens forum. > > But if anyone else think they can make a bank or 2 of such presets as I > described you're most welcome. > > on the kvraudio site I often see announcements like this of sound > designers making a bank > of presets for soft syths. > > We're willing to pay for well made sounds in this category but they don't > have to be commercial of course... ;-) > > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2401695#2401695 > > Here's the post for the old lazy men ;-) : > > Hi Rob how about making more presets for the Andromeda A6? I got your bank > of course but find it and all the other banks a little old school and > trancey. There are good sounds among though. > > What I'd like to see or hear is some more modern sounds for electronica > and ambient consisting of the usual keys, pads, bases, fx, drums/percussion > etc. and maybe a few downtempo more quiet sequences/arps. > > I'd pay for more well made presets if they were in this category. I just > got the synth and like it a lot and making my own sounds but it would be > great to get some inspiration and learn from an expert. > > And mao wrote: > > yes... we need more preset... more RP preset ! > > But I think that the A6 lacks of "normal" sounds... there are tons of > evolving pad, iper-modulated things and bells and whistles... Sure A6 can do > these sounds... > But I like simple pure analog sounds... like what you can hear listening > to Wendy Carlos playing J.S. Bach on the Moog... simple but unique > sounds... There few sounds like that on the whole bank set for Andromeda... > Someone says that A6 doesn't sounds analog to a first test... is it > because of the "workstation" type preset sounds? What about something more > "old & usual" ? > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/a9d39679/attachment.htm From lawst.synth at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 07:33:55 2007 From: lawst.synth at gmail.com (lawst) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: Fwd: [A6] Varying OSC beating rates In-Reply-To: <745814.94573.qm@web23106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <601455c20702230952v74793577v31754fe1524856d8@mail.gmail.com> <745814.94573.qm@web23106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <601455c20702260733x3d32d6u62bb617cee7d882d@mail.gmail.com> thanks everyone I thought this was the case but just wanted to check lawst On 2/23/07, Paul Evenblij wrote: > > --- lawst wrote: > > Can anyone else confirm if their Andromeda does the > > same? > > > > Yep, mine does, and has always done so. I have one of > the pre-Numark units, and I consider it normal > behaviour. Welcome to the world of analogue synthesis. > > Paul > > > __________________________________________________ > andromizer -- patch randomizer for a6 > http://www.knoware.nl/users/paulpaul/dm/andromizer > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your > email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. > http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/72e746e5/attachment.htm From wasubot at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 07:45:20 2007 From: wasubot at gmail.com (wasubot) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] Hello! In-Reply-To: <000701c7597a$f57a1790$0400a8c0@natsumikan> References: <000701c7597a$f57a1790$0400a8c0@natsumikan> Message-ID: <643003cc0702260745y43d3f6c7h31c59082af09f215@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Nyatsuko-san, Always glad to see more A6 owners here. Regards, Wasubot On 2/26/07, ????? wrote: > > My name is nyatsuko. > I'm Japanese woman. > I don't have friend of ANDROMEDAA6. > Happy, veryhappy , I see this a site. > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -- Wasubot ---------------------------- Notes: Special Sequence Mixed For Dancing -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070227/7d00cf67/attachment.htm From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 10:09:51 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net><837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com><21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> <21c7b5a00702260524y36c962dehd34b756148425693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I just opened a forum on MATRXSYNTH: http://matrixsynth.com/forum. If the list wants, I'd be more than happy to open an official A6 fourm. Let me know and I'll do it today. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Soarer A6 To: a6 Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems See now I even forgot to send this to the list as well! I still receive emails with the messages on the other forums I've subscribed to. This mailing list is fine but in a forum its much easier to find around in the old posts and you can easily edit your post if you make errors or post some crazy shit that you shouldn't have while being stoned and drunk etc. ;-) And let's not forget the smilies! Oh all the smilies... ok I'll stop here. But I appreciate having an active mailing list rather than a very quiet forum like the one at electro-music. On 2/25/07, matrix wrote: Correction: Lazy men like me use mailing lists. :) Everything comes directly to me when it comes in - I don't have to remember to go to a forum to look for the latest. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Georg M?ller" To: < a6@code404.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > schaltstern schrieb: >> >> I second that. >> >> > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a thing >> > like >> > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that >> > deserves a >> > forum -if I may say so... > > This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching the > archives). > > Real men (and women) use analog. > Real men (and women) use mailing lists. > > :-) > > Georg. > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ A6 mailing list A6@code404.com http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/7bfb9423/attachment.htm From schaltstern at curious-electric.com Mon Feb 26 11:27:55 2007 From: schaltstern at curious-electric.com (schaltstern) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> <21c7b5a00702260524y36c962dehd34b756148425693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: wasn't it you who said ... nevermind, I am in. Am 26.02.2007, 19:09 Uhr, schrieb matrix : > I just opened a forum on MATRXSYNTH: http://matrixsynth.com/forum. If > the list wants, I'd be more than happy to open an official A6 fourm. > Let me know and I'll do it today. > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Soarer A6 > To: a6 > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:24 AM > Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > > See now I even forgot to send this to the list as well! > > I still receive emails with the messages on the other forums I've > subscribed to. > This mailing list is fine but in a forum its much easier to find > around in the old posts > and you can easily edit your post if you make errors or post some > crazy shit that > you shouldn't have while being stoned and drunk etc. ;-) And let's not > forget the smilies! > Oh all the smilies... ok I'll stop here. > > But I appreciate having an active mailing list rather than a very > quiet forum like the one at electro-music. > > > On 2/25/07, matrix wrote: > Correction: > > Lazy men like me use mailing lists. :) > > Everything comes directly to me when it comes in - I don't have to > remember > to go to a forum to look for the latest. > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Georg M?ller" > To: < a6@code404.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:54 AM > Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > > > schaltstern schrieb: > >> > >> I second that. > >> > >> > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a > thing > >> > like > >> > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that > >> > deserves a > >> > forum -if I may say so... > > > > This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching > the > > archives). > > > > Real men (and women) use analog. > > Real men (and women) use mailing lists. > > > > :-) > > > > Georg. > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 11:52:17 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> <21c7b5a00702260524y36c962dehd34b756148425693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I said, I prefer the list. : ) Considering there already is an A6 forum on electro-music.com and the list, another forum would be a bad idea. The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth is you end up diluting communication on the given synth. Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for pointing to the forum and list? http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "schaltstern" To: "matrix" ; "Soarer A6" ; "a6" Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > wasn't it you who said ... nevermind, I am in. > > > Am 26.02.2007, 19:09 Uhr, schrieb matrix : > >> I just opened a forum on MATRXSYNTH: http://matrixsynth.com/forum. If >> the list wants, I'd be more than happy to open an official A6 fourm. >> Let me know and I'll do it today. >> >> cheers, >> matrix >> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com >> ____________________________ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Soarer A6 >> To: a6 >> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems >> >> >> See now I even forgot to send this to the list as well! >> >> I still receive emails with the messages on the other forums I've >> subscribed to. >> This mailing list is fine but in a forum its much easier to find >> around in the old posts >> and you can easily edit your post if you make errors or post some >> crazy shit that >> you shouldn't have while being stoned and drunk etc. ;-) And let's not >> forget the smilies! >> Oh all the smilies... ok I'll stop here. >> >> But I appreciate having an active mailing list rather than a very >> quiet forum like the one at electro-music. >> >> >> On 2/25/07, matrix wrote: >> Correction: >> >> Lazy men like me use mailing lists. :) >> >> Everything comes directly to me when it comes in - I don't have to >> remember >> to go to a forum to look for the latest. >> >> cheers, >> matrix >> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com >> ____________________________ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr. Georg M?ller" >> To: < a6@code404.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems >> >> >> > schaltstern schrieb: >> >> >> >> I second that. >> >> >> >> > This whole A6 archive should be made into a forum IMHO. Then a >> thing >> >> > like >> >> > this could not happen (I guess). Lots of valuable info here that >> >> > deserves a >> >> > forum -if I may say so... >> > >> > This is an old discussion (as you can easily find out by searching >> the >> > archives). >> > >> > Real men (and women) use analog. >> > Real men (and women) use mailing lists. >> > >> > :-) >> > >> > Georg. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > A6 mailing list >> > A6@code404.com >> > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> A6 mailing list >> A6@code404.com >> http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> A6 mailing list >> A6@code404.com >> http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > From schaltstern at curious-electric.com Mon Feb 26 12:00:38 2007 From: schaltstern at curious-electric.com (schaltstern) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: References: <20060901224424.GB32508@mitch.veggiechinese.net> <837839.81771.qm@web23102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <21c7b5a00702240503t6a9a734cm1e5b27e6cf91f0b8@mail.gmail.com> <45E16ADA.EBBC1A79@dplanet.ch> <21c7b5a00702260524y36c962dehd34b756148425693@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: sorry, I am confused - didn't you just offer to open a forum? I was just responding to this offer. Frankly, I don't really care. I thought exchanging gopher for mosaic was wrong in the first place, so I can live perfectly with a mailing list. So *if* there was a forum I'd be in it. Over and out. > I said, I prefer the list. : ) Considering there already is an A6 > forum on electro-music.com and the list, another forum would be a bad > idea. The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth > is you end up diluting communication on the given synth. > > Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for > pointing to the forum and list? > > http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- From: "schaltstern" > > To: "matrix" ; "Soarer A6" > ; "a6" > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > >> wasn't it you who said ... nevermind, I am in. >> >> >> Am 26.02.2007, 19:09 Uhr, schrieb matrix : >> >>> I just opened a forum on MATRXSYNTH: http://matrixsynth.com/forum. If >>> the list wants, I'd be more than happy to open an official A6 fourm. >>> Let me know and I'll do it today. >>> >>> cheers, >>> matrix >>> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com From digitale at pt.lu Mon Feb 26 13:26:30 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:14 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c759ec$c98b9330$14656353@digitale> Way true! And I totally forgot to go back have an eye on the electro-music forum. It's true... you have to make the initiative to have communication. With a mailing-list, the communication comes to you. But in another side, there is no database with sections for tips, tricks, tutorials, feedbacks... nor a search function. Moreno > The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth is you end up > diluting communication on the given synth. > > Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for pointing to > the forum and list? > > http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com From thesynthwizard at hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 13:34:25 2007 From: thesynthwizard at hotmail.com (Jago Bolduc) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/82e6bf6c/attachment.htm From thesynthwizard at hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 13:43:08 2007 From: thesynthwizard at hotmail.com (Jago Bolduc) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/31efab9c/attachment.htm From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 13:52:09 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702261352t1132e016l517f7e108ea931ce@mail.gmail.com> Hey there Jago and welcome to the list! And congrats on your A6. Hope you get a good one. I just got mine in January. I'd love to see that video... On 2/26/07, Jago Bolduc wrote: > > Hello all, > > This is my first post to the list. Im not sure how the list works but > hopefully I'll pick pick it up quick enough. > > A bit about me.....im 27 and have been into synths since 1998. I use > Prophet 5, Jupiter 8, Pro-One, MonoPoly and a Juno 60. Ah yes, I also have a > DX7 lurking around for some digital action. Im looking forward to taking > delivery of my A6 as im into sound designing and prefer true analog as > opposed to virtual. Some of you may recognise my name from other forums such > as vintagesynth, harmony central and sonicstate....I am rather vocal about > softsynths and virtual stuff - please dont get me started on it! > > I also want to say two other things. I spoke to a guy at AlesisNumark in > Europe and A6's *are* now back in production and *yes* the hold up was in > fact due to them sorting about the tuning issue with the oscilator chips. Ah > bless....thats good old analog for ya! Secondly, I have in my posession a > very rare (read: never made available to the public) official Andromeda A6 > demonstration video. It lasts about 8 mins and its very cool. Why the hell > Alesis doesnt have it on their website I dont know. But anyhow, Im sending a > copy to Alesis and will post it on the net for all Andy lovers to enjoy. > > Rock on > > Jago > > ------------------------------ > MSN Hotmail is evolving ? check out the new Windows Live Mail > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/b9bce6e1/attachment.htm From kwalker at freenet.co.uk Mon Feb 26 13:58:36 2007 From: kwalker at freenet.co.uk (Kevin Walker) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: you didn't buy a new one did you? some great s/hand bargain's around.... I was selling mine, but have decided to keep it. k On 26/02/07, Jago Bolduc wrote: > > Hello all, > > This is my first post to the list. Im not sure how the list works but > hopefully I'll pick pick it up quick enough. > > A bit about me.....im 27 and have been into synths since 1998. I use > Prophet 5, Jupiter 8, Pro-One, MonoPoly and a Juno 60. Ah yes, I also have a > DX7 lurking around for some digital action. Im looking forward to taking > delivery of my A6 as im into sound designing and prefer true analog as > opposed to virtual. Some of you may recognise my name from other forums such > as vintagesynth, harmony central and sonicstate....I am rather vocal about > softsynths and virtual stuff - please dont get me started on it! > > I also want to say two other things. I spoke to a guy at AlesisNumark in > Europe and A6's *are* now back in production and *yes* the hold up was in > fact due to them sorting about the tuning issue with the oscilator chips. Ah > bless....thats good old analog for ya! Secondly, I have in my posession a > very rare (read: never made available to the public) official Andromeda A6 > demonstration video. It lasts about 8 mins and its very cool. Why the hell > Alesis doesnt have it on their website I dont know. But anyhow, Im sending a > copy to Alesis and will post it on the net for all Andy lovers to enjoy. > > Rock on > > Jago > > ------------------------------ > MSN Hotmail is evolving ? check out the new Windows Live Mail > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/940febad/attachment.htm From digitale at pt.lu Mon Feb 26 14:02:44 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c759f1$d92528b0$14656353@digitale> Yay double post LOL. You start with heavy injection! =; ? If it?s as great as you say, I have no doubts because you have quiet a good collection of good synths and you enjoyed anyway the video, so yeh, Alesis is having bad marketing strategies. They already removed great digital synths from the market such as the Ion which sounds almost like the real deal. Don?t know what?s in their little head. Maybe there are legal rights issues with that video. Let us know where you pasted it Youtube? Anyway Welcome! Moreno -----Original Message----- From: a6-bounces@code404.com [mailto:a6-bounces@code404.com] On Behalf Of Jago Bolduc Sent: lundi 26 f?vrier 2007 22:34 To: a6@code404.com Subject: [A6] I have an A6 on order....YAY! Hello all, This is my first post to the list. Im not sure how the list works but hopefully I'll pick pick it up quick enough. A bit about me.....im 27 and have been into synths since 1998. I use Prophet 5, Jupiter 8, Pro-One, MonoPoly and a Juno 60. Ah yes, I also have a DX7 lurking around for some digital action. Im looking forward to taking delivery of my A6 as im into sound designing and prefer true analog as opposed to virtual. Some of you may recognise my name from other forums such as vintagesynth, harmony central and sonicstate....I am rather vocal about softsynths and virtual stuff - please dont get me started on it! I also want to say two other things. I spoke to a guy at AlesisNumark in Europe and A6's *are* now back in production and *yes* the hold up was in fact due to them sorting about the tuning issue with the oscilator chips. Ah bless....thats good old analog for ya! Secondly, I have in my posession a very rare (read: never made available to the public) official Andromeda A6 demonstration video. It lasts about 8 mins and its very cool. Why the hell Alesis doesnt have it on their website I dont know. But anyhow, Im sending a copy to Alesis and will post it on the net for all Andy lovers to enjoy. Rock on Jago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/dcd0a18f/attachment.htm From digitale at pt.lu Mon Feb 26 14:05:33 2007 From: digitale at pt.lu (Moreno RENGA) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems Message-ID: <001701c759f2$3c5bdf00$14656353@digitale> Who maintains the mailing list? What might be useful would be to add an A6 signature to threads that come in. That way the link to the site and forum would be in every email. Just a thought. cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moreno RENGA" To: "'a6'" Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [A6] README: Recent list problems > Way true! > And I totally forgot to go back have an eye on the electro-music > forum. It's true... you have to make the initiative to have > communication. With a mailing-list, the communication comes to you. > But in another side, there is no database with sections for tips, > tricks, tutorials, feedbacks... nor a search function. > > Moreno > > >> The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth is > you end up >> diluting communication on the given synth. >> >> Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for > pointing to >> the forum and list? >> >> http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ >> >> cheers, >> matrix >> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com From soarera6 at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 14:11:46 2007 From: soarera6 at gmail.com (Soarer A6) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] Are the Kris Rhen presets available? Message-ID: <21c7b5a00702261411y6d3ae416q812cb363f5e70041@mail.gmail.com> On www.wohmart.com/a6/audio theres a section with mp3s of Kris Rhen's presets. Are they available as .syx programs/bank anywhere? I thought I had them at some time... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070226/b6728e99/attachment.htm From matrixsynth at hotmail.com Mon Feb 26 14:26:34 2007 From: matrixsynth at hotmail.com (matrix) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems References: <001701c759f2$3c5bdf00$14656353@digitale> Message-ID: Funny, I'm getting bounced sending email to a6@code404.com. I just get booted? : ) cheers, matrix http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com ____________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moreno RENGA" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [A6] README: Recent list problems > Who maintains the mailing list? What might be useful would be to add an > A6 > signature to threads that come in. That way the link to the site and > forum > would be in every email. Just a thought. > > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moreno RENGA" > To: "'a6'" > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:26 PM > Subject: RE: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > >> Way true! >> And I totally forgot to go back have an eye on the electro-music >> forum. It's true... you have to make the initiative to have >> communication. With a mailing-list, the communication comes to you. >> But in another side, there is no database with sections for tips, >> tricks, tutorials, feedbacks... nor a search function. >> >> Moreno >> >> >>> The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth is >> you end up >>> diluting communication on the given synth. >>> >>> Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for >> pointing to >>> the forum and list? >>> >>> http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ >>> >>> cheers, >>> matrix >>> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > From joant at ieee.org Mon Feb 26 18:41:25 2007 From: joant at ieee.org (Joan Touzet) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:15 2010 Subject: [A6] README: Recent list problems In-Reply-To: References: <001701c759f2$3c5bdf00$14656353@digitale> Message-ID: Nope, I see your email here :) -Joan On 2/26/07, matrix wrote: > Funny, I'm getting bounced sending email to a6@code404.com. I just get > booted? : ) > > cheers, > matrix > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > ____________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moreno RENGA" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:05 PM > Subject: RE: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > > > Who maintains the mailing list? What might be useful would be to add an > > A6 > > signature to threads that come in. That way the link to the site and > > forum > > would be in every email. Just a thought. > > > > > > cheers, > > matrix > > http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > > ____________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moreno RENGA" > > To: "'a6'" > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 1:26 PM > > Subject: RE: [A6] README: Recent list problems > > > > > >> Way true! > >> And I totally forgot to go back have an eye on the electro-music > >> forum. It's true... you have to make the initiative to have > >> communication. With a mailing-list, the communication comes to you. > >> But in another side, there is no database with sections for tips, > >> tricks, tutorials, feedbacks... nor a search function. > >> > >> Moreno > >> > >> > >>> The problem with creating multiple focus sites for a given synth is > >> you end up > >>> diluting communication on the given synth. > >>> > >>> Don't we already have this site for hosting what we need and for > >> pointing to > >>> the forum and list? > >>> > >>> http://www.wohmart.com/a6/ > >>> > >>> cheers, > >>> matrix > >>> http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > A6 mailing list > > A6@code404.com > > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > > > > _______________________________________________ > A6 mailing list > A6@code404.com > http://mailman.code404.com/mailman/listinfo/a6 > From scd at synthmusic.info Mon Feb 26 22:47:07 2007 From: scd at synthmusic.info (Boele Gerkes) Date: Mon Feb 22 19:52:16 2010 Subject: [A6] Presets request! In-Reply-To: <21c7b5a00702260733j51269681te67f305188e95553@mail.gmail.com> References: <21c7b5a00702260543m53822220oa5d6c83e41bd190f@mail.gmail.com> <21c7b5a00702260733j51269681te67f305188e95553@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think I sended the email to your private emailadress Soarer. So no one saw it, haha! So once again, How about creating a user-A6-soundbank? I've done a few in the past on the Waldorf list and I think that was a great succes (and great fun as well). Some excellent sounds came out for the XT and Q! The idea is that everyone here owning an A6 will pledge a few sounds for this purpose. It may be from 1 to whatever number you like. A central person (I'll offer the service again :)) puts all the sounds together, does some adjustments to patchnames, volumes, etc. In that way we can learn from each other and you get a diverse soundbank! I'll start with 10 sounds. Is this a good idea? (I have no clue how many people are subscribed here by the way). If there is enough animo I'll post a few simple guidelines. Boele Something Completely Different http://www.synthmusic.info Op 26-feb-2007, om 16:33 heeft Soarer A6 het volgende geschreven: > Cheers guys and thumbs up for your positive replies! > > I like what Boele is saying about a dedicated presets area > somewhere. Where would it be? > At http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/ ? > It would be nice if all presets/banks were gathered so that > everyone could download them. > But you're welcome to send your bank to me of course. > > And if someone, like myself only has 1 or 2 presets to offer that > should be fine > to post those too. > > Also this would make it possible to upload a program for testing, > developing and discussing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.code404.com/pipermail/a6/attachments/20070227/780a5ac9/attachment.htm